I am running a Marshall 18 W clone into a 10/12 cab that currently just has a Vin30 in it. That well known overbite is grating on me. I would like to try mixing it up a bit and I am planning on putting a 10 & 12 in the cab and wiring it such that I can get just the 12 for low volume apps and the 10/12 for louder venues. (There are 2jacks on the cab)
i was considering a retro 10 with an invader 50. This will be for a mostly rock/blues set up. I like clarity without harshness, complex mids that change as notes decay, and a firm low end that isn't too pronounced. Too much low gets in the way of keys and bass in my band mix.
I have a Blackstar open back 1/12 with a Retro that I regularly run with my little 25 watt Zinky Blue Velvet with an ET 90. I love the tone both alone with teh ET 90 and together with the Retro with my Zinky. I have just picked up a old 1st gen non reverb Boogie Subway Rocket 1/10 combo and am looking for a 10 as the stock Black Shaddow is small, boxie and thin sounding in this amp. I was looking at both the Retro 10 and the ET 10 and wonder which one would fill out the tone the best in the combo alone . I also plan to run the Rocket at times with the Blackstar and the Retro 12 inch. Which speaker do you reccomend for rounding out and fattening up the Subway Rocket tones the Retro 10 or the new ET??
Greetings! I've just recently started making the switch to WGS and am loving my tones!! I was introduced to WGS speakers when I purchased a WhiteBox 2x12 with ET-65s on board. I'd play club-sized gigs with that cabinet and a Hughes & Kettner head and people would be floored. I can't tell you how many times I have answered the question, "what speakers are in that 212?!?!
I recently got another WhiteBox 2x12 and this time installed Liberators. Wow! Sounds as big as a 4x12. I then replaced some Celestion G12T-75s in a 412 with HM-75s and WHAT A DIFFERENCE!! Personally, I'm not a fan of the G12T-75 and the HM-75 cures everything I don't like about the G12T-75s. I also recently replaced the Celestions in another 412 with ET65s on top and ET90s on bottom. Amazing...
So so now I have an empty Hughes & Kettner straight 412 and am thinking of combinations. Hughes & Kettner puts Vintage 30s in all their high-end cabs and my personal experience and opinion is that this is the reason Hughes and Kettner isn't a more popular brand: Their amps just don't sound that good with V30s. Now, through my ET-65/90 cab... BOOM!!! So I'm thinking, perhaps a Green Beret top ET65 or 90 bottom combo. I like a tone that has a lot of crunch and snarl, or, as ART used to call it, "GRIND."
Truth is ... almost NO amps sound good with V30's! Closed-back cabs with Marshall crunch being the notable exception...
The Green Beret / ET65 or 90 mix should be pretty solid ... kinda along the lines of the original EVH tone of Greenbacks above JBL D120's discussed here: https://wgs4.com/van-halen-tone-4x12-speaker-help
Here's my question, I am in the process of taking my 1970 twin reverb and splitting it up into a head/cabinet arrangement. I have been running the amp with V1 removed, a 12ax7 (instead of 12at7) in V6, 2 output tubes removed and 1 speaker disconnected so the amp sees 8 ohm load. If I were to make a 2x12 (open) cabinet with 1 ET65 and 1 Veteran30, what difference (if any) in tone/level would there be between setting it up with 16 ohm speakers wired in parallel vs 4 ohm speakers wired in series?
Wondering which two 10'' speakers I should get for a 2x10.
I like a smooth OD, Dumblish. Tight bass, not thumpy. No ice picky high end. So far my favorite speaker is the Emi RWB, and I also own an ET-10 in a 1x10.
Hi - I use a deluxe reverb that i have changed the baffle to take 2 x 10"s. I play a lot of styles, but all seem to have a jazzy flavour, with a range of clean to Santana-esque smooth sustain stuff. I have tried various speakers in the DRRI but recently installed a WGS ET10 and a G10c/s (the smooth cone one). The balance is fantastic and the tone is smooth. the ET10 has enough presence to and the C/S has all the smooth good stuff like a hemp cone speaker. There is a very organic quality especially using OD pedals. The bass has been reduced a little bit so the flubby stuff is gone. (there is still plenty of bottom end)
Last night a fellow musician asked me on the break, "what have you done to your sound, it sings..."
I am dreaming up a new cab, a pair of WGS speakers in the upcoming Jet City 24SVe—vertical slant 2x12 (26? tall, 19½? wide, 14? deep on bottom and 11¼? deep on top):
http://www.ampfactory.com/24sve/
This would be a great opportunity to try the Veteran 30/ET65 combination at long last. Thinking about it, however, I am tempted to use the HM75 in place of the ET65 for a tighter sound which has less highs overall—the tone chart sum being 12, 12, 11 instead of 11, 11, 11 (Bass, Mid, Treble). I would rather turn up Treble and Presence for highs than risk being stuck wishing I could turn them down further. The British Lead/HM75 combination is tempting, but I fear the low end will be too difficult to tame—the tone chart sum being 13, 11, 11.
Does this make sense? I feel like their might be differences in these speakers' low end characteristics which I am not taking into account. I already have a 1x15 with a Celestion G15V-100 Fullback for big, loose lows with plenty of articulation across the board.
I currently play on a Marshall JCM800 50W (2205) with a 2x12 TubeTown cab (bluesbreaker style, closed-back). I'm using a WGS Invader 50 with a Celestion G12T-75.
I like the tone and I think that both speakers complement each other well, but I find the result a bit too harsh : the highs can be a bit ear-piercing. I'd like to achieve a similar sound with less harsh highs and a more mids. I've considered modding the amp, but first, I think that changing one of the speakers might be just what I need.
I really love Greenback-like tones with Marshall amps, so I consider keeping the Invader and replacing the G12T with something a little bit warmer. Here are a few options I though of :
- Replacing the G12T with a WGS HM-75 speaker. Similar but warmer and less bright. Does the Invader/HM-75 pairing work well ? Would it "fix" the ear-piercing highs, or is the HM-75 too close to the G12T to make a difference ?
- Replacing the G12T with another Invader. Full 100% Invader sound. But it might lack high-end/bottom-end and be a bit more dull than the combination with another speaker.
Should I try the HM-75 or the Invader ? Or something else ? I mostly play rock, blues-rock, hard-rock, blues and pop-rock/indie (and sometimes a bit of country) with an SG and a Telecaster.
A quick question. I'm building my second cab with WGS speakers. This time with the et65 and a retro 30.
im going to be running a laney vh100r cab with it mainly. My style of playing is blues/rock, playing either clean with reverb, and or slightly tube overdriven with slight reverb.
this cab has the option of either a closed back, partially open, or open.
what would you recommend I set the cab up, with closed, partially open, or open?
First try keeping the Invader and pairing it with an ET65 ... if that dosn't get you far enough down the road less harsh ... then make it a pair of ET65's.
Which would be a good combo for a ceriatone 18 watt amp. Ef86 on one side, Marshall TMB on the other. 2x12 slant cab. Blackhawk/ green beret or et65/ retro 30?
Man, those are both killer combinations ... but the ET65/Ret 30 combo will cover MORE sonic ground, if flexibility is your #1 goal. The BH/GB combo would be the ultimate in warm, organic tweed Fender /basket-weave Marshall era tone.
I am currently rocking a Retro 30 and an ET65 in separate, identical open-back 1x12 cabs. I am using these together and separately with various low-wattage tube heads like the Laney L20H - classic rock and blues. I love the sound but I find that the ET65 is a bit too bassy for me. Any recommendations for a good pairing with the Retro 30 that will also sound good separately? Maybe the Invader 50?
I am currently rocking a Retro 30 and an ET65 in separate, identical open-back 1x12 cabs. I am using these together and separately with various low-wattage tube heads like the Laney L20H - classic rock and blues. I love the sound but I find that the ET65 is a bit too bassy for me. Any recommendations for a good pairing with the Retro 30 that will also sound good separately? Maybe the Invader 50?