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I just bought a Eminence Legend 1258. I also own a Celestion G12T-75. The Legend is too bright after breaking in, which I can still adjust out with the tone control. But it miss the high sizzle in OD like the Celestion. But I don't like the British sound of the Celestion.

I want an American sound.

My design is a two channel amp with Fender type of clean and some of Marshall distortion.

Legend 1258 supposed to model after Jensen C12N. Is G12C fuller and less bright than The Legend 1258?

Would G12C/S too dark for Marshall type of OD sound?

Any other suggestion?

 

Thanks

 

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Is G12C fuller and less bright than The Legend 1258?

No, probably about the same...

Would G12C/S too dark for Marshall type of OD sound?

Yes, I think so!

For you, I would strongly recommend our ET-65 ... which straddles the line between Brit & American voiced ... and sounds like just what you are looking for!

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Thanks for the reply.

Is the G12C/S a lot darker than G12C? The Eminence Legend 1258 is very bright, I have to turn the mid and treble almost all the way down to make it sounds good. I don't even have to do it with the Celestion G12T-75. If G12C/S is the same brightness as the Celection G12T-75, it would be perfect. the Eminence just make all my other speakers sound dark.

I really want to keep the Fender American sound for the clean. I guess if I am willing to give up the Marshall OD and stay with Fender type of OD, you think the G12C/S is still too dark?

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Yes ... sounds strange but the ribbed version is pretty much our brightest, and the smooth cone our darkest speaker!

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Is the G12C/S good for OD sound?

If not, what speaker can you suggest that has good Fender American sound but have good OD sound?

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I listened to you video demo between ET-65 and ET-90. Is the ET-90 more American sounding? Seems to be slightly warmer sounding.

Basically, I am happy with the sound of the Eminence Legend 1258 ( similar to your G12C), I just want one that is less bright. Any other suggestion.

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"For you, I would strongly recommend our ET-65 ... which straddles the line between Brit & American voiced ... and sounds like just what you are looking for!"

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My main worry is my design is about 40W or a little higher. ET-65 is cutting very close. That's the reason I am interested in the ET-90.

I like the comparison video you made between ET-65 and ET-90. It seems that the ET-90 is even a little more American sounding than ET-65. That would be even better for me.

Also, from the tone chart, ET-90 is the same as G12C/S. Would that be too dark?

 

thanks

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Hello,

I am convinced the ET65 being the solution that really fits to your needs. I was on a comparable crusade for tone and maybe you´d like to read my impressions at

http://wgs4.com/mixing-g12c-g10c

I guess the ET65 is the best single 12" solution. Maybe mixed with a g10c (which I didn´t try yet, but might soon). Or simply put: Vaughn is right!

best regards

Heiko

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I know you recommend ET-65, but I would like to have a little more power handling capability. I am looking at the ET-90. Can you comment the difference in sound between ET-90 and ET-65. I heard your demo comparison between the two. It seems like the ET-90 is a little more American sounding, is this true?

Is ET-90 a little brighter than G12C/S?

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I’m in a country band that also plays variety Dance 50s and 60s rock with some classic rock and blues. So I need a versatile speaker but still want a tight Fender clean. I liked the 70 watt Celestion Fender puts in the 68 Custom Deluxe Reverb as well.
Suggestions for a Warehouse as I’ve heard good things.

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“American” often is considered pretty bright, though. And I mean bright-bright, not V30-ish mid heavy. Thus there’s a compromise to be struck with any speaker intended to do cleans and dirt.

The ET65 is very middle-of-the-road here, though: The british mids are there but it’s still crisp and more neutral, yet on the warmer side of things. The ET90 is brighter and dishes out more lows.