Hello all you music lovers
I have a 5E3 Tweed Deluxe clone with a Weber 12A125A. It has way too much upper midrange and too ice picky treble. Which WGS have a thight bottom, scoop'ed upper mids but with some sparkle on top , open airy but warm? I actually would like the amp to sound like a Blackface Deluxe Reverb!!
Thanks, -JOSP
Easy: Blackhawk!! Not just good ... rock your world good!
see: https://wgs4.com/wgs-blackhawk-alnico-speaker-tweed-fender-deluxe-amp
Do you really think the Blackhawk is the right speaker for my Tweed Deluxe when I want the amp to sound like a Blackface Deluxe Reverb? The Blackhawk is supposed to be a replacement speaker for a Celestion Gold - to me the C G speaker have a lot of that upper mid emphasis and the typical British 'bell chime' which I don't like.... But maybe the Blackhawk is totally different?
I was thinking of an American voiced speaker with a thight bottom, scooped (upper) mids and some sparkle way up on top - so to speak.....
Based on your descriptions: what about the ET65, the G12C or the G12C/S - you don't think I'll come closer to a Blackface sound with one of these?
Thanks - JOSP
Yes, I do! The Blackhawk most definitely does NOT have a "upper mid emphasis". See:
https://wgs4.com/1967-fender-deluxe-reverb-quest-best-replacement-speaker
Question: If you want BF Deluxe sound & NOT Tweed ... might want to consider selling the tweed & getting a BF. They are SUCH (!!) different amps. I have both, and have had several of both, and Everything about them is different from a circuit perspective ... and ultimately tone. They may both say "Deluxe", but they are like night & day.
Tweed: Old world P.I. and the 6v6's are running easy. No negative feedback AT ALL, and tiny little output tranny. Simple treble roll-off tone control. Big, empty 50+ year old pine box. All this equals a very warm and wolly amp that begins to distort very early!
BF Deluxe Reverb: Modern PI and 6v6's running at or above rated top voltage. Lots of Neg feedback. Beefed up (by comparison) PT & output tranny. "modern" bass & treble tone stack (and an aggressive bright cap). Pine box now stuffed with a much larger chassis on top and a big ol verb tank on bottom. Plus, al new values for almost ALL components...
I have tried the other speakers you mention in my '59 ... here's why I still prefer the Blackhawk:
ET65: Awesome tone, but the medium magnet doesn't allow as much clean headroom as the Blackhawk
G12C: Yes, this is very BF sounding ... you may like it ... but to me it took away too much of the organic woodiness I love about the tweed Deluxe ... and made it bite too much in the upper midrange.
G12C/S: very warm & woody ... too much for me ...
Thanks for the answer.
I suppose you are speaking about the 50 watt Blackhawk for my 5E3?
And you think the Blackhawk has some that high end sparkle as well?
Thanks... JOSP